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Dear Joe -
You've made the point in the past that there is a quintessential
characterization for Spider-Man, that when he is portrayed in (most) other
media it is as an unmarried teenager. That means he is most easily recognized
as that newly-powered teen. Because of this, you argue, he should always be
that young man with romantic complications.
I agree that if you boil down Spider-Man to his roots that what you get is
that basic origin of a teen with newfound powers and a newfound realization of
his responsibility. And that Spider-Man as a comic book was perhaps at its
greatest strength during the first 120 or so issues of Amazing Spider-Man when
soap opera elements dominated alongside the superhero action.
However the stories in comic books do not exist in a vacuum. Part of the charm
and the longevity of the Marvel Universe is that we have seen how these
characters grow and mature. Certainly their essence remains at the core of the
characters. The Fantastic Four are a family. The X-Men are mistrusted.
Daredevil overcomes his handicap. Bruce Banner struggles with his darker side.
The Avengers come together for greater threats. Thor is pulled in both
directions by his allegiances. Iron Man is both improved and limited by his
armor. Captain America struggles with ideals he hopes do not become outdated.
And Spider-Man fights on to overcome his guilt at his tragic inaction.
But if every issue of these comic books dealt with these characters battling
their Achilles heels, then the stories lose their linear feel. You may as well
just read Tales of Suspense 39 or Fantastic Four over and over again. But no,
we read other stories about these characters. We can accept Walt Simonson
obliterating Donald Blake or Peter David making a smart Hulk because the tales
were so good. And if we want to read "fun" Daredevil, we'll put down our Frank
Millers for awhile and pick up our Wally Woods. If we want something a little
different we'll pick up Byrne's Fantastic Four with She-Hulk before going back
to the Lee/Kirby issues. Those stories still exist and always will.
So I say that if readers want to read about Peter Parker's romantic
entanglements, direct them to Lee/Romita. Or Bendis/Bagley. Or the Marvel
Adventures line. Or Mary Jane Loves Spider-Man. There are many, many options
in the Marvel family.
But to take away Peter's and Mary Jane's relationship by having Wanda say "No
more marriages" or however you're planning on doing it without stigmatizing
either character is erasing over 19 years of linear continuity. Think about
that...19 years. Think about a reader back then who was six years old who is
now 25 and still reading Spider-Man. Think about a reader who was 25 and is
now 44 or so on. That is a whole generation of comic books fans who have as
their Spider-Man reality Peter Parker's marriage to Mary Jane Watson. That's
not something you can easily erase.
One of your arguments has been that it is more difficult to write stories with
them married. I think a lot of writers have done some really good work with
their marriage. Your close contributor J. Michael Straczynski has rejuvenated
their relationship, saving it from a previous administration who thought it
might be better if Peter and Mary Jane weren't together. You see how well that
all went over.
The Spider-Man whose story has unfolded for us over these 40-plus years
couldn't stay the high school geek forever. He couldn't always hang out at the
Coffee Bean with his pals and gals. He couldn't continue mourning for Gwen.
The Black Cat relationship wasn't going to last. Found himself a nifty black
costume. He married the woman he loved. Clones happen. He can't work at the
Daily Bugle forever. Eventually he was able to fully confide in his Aunt May.
He lost and then regained Mary Jane. And now he is working and living with the
Avengers. And who knows what will happen next?
"Next." That's the key word here. If Peter's progress is reverted and he is
changed back into the swingin' single with girlfriends and buddies he is no
longer Peter Parker.
He's Archie.
And "Peter-as-Archie" was fine at its time, those great Lee/Romita issues with
Pete, MJ, Gwen, Flash and Harry learning their way in the world with tragedy
always looming but still trying to make their peace and grow up. And grow up
they did when Spider-Man could foil that tragedy. He couldn't always do it and
that made him grow up as well.
In your recent Joe Fridays you cite a letter that someone wrote in about the
marriage that you agreed with. I'm afraid I can't concur.
"What made the Marvel Universe was a bunch of cool, new heroes that had flaws
and spoke to people. Spider-Man's flaw wasn't that he was married to a
supermodel. And Reed and Sue can get married because Reed and Sue were
together since the beginning. They were always a couple, adding a ring doesn't
change anything because they are the same. And the kids don't grow. Nor should
they ever.
"Peter Parker never was a family man. It perverts the character to make him
so. Peter Parker being young and having girl trouble, school problems, work
problems, and feeling guilty about the death of his father figure and
constantly lying and not being there for his mother figure is relatable. Peter
Parker being old, married, with money problems and whining about his luck is
pathetic. And Peter Parker being old, married, and content is boring.
"And I think it is kind of funny people are complaining about the status quo.
The marriage is the very DEFINITION of the status quo. You can't get rid of
the damn thing. It just sits there, adding literally NOTHING to the stories.
If anyone can tell me ONE good story that requires Peter and MJ to be married
instead of living together or engaged, go ahead. If you can tell me that
Spider-Man would have survived if he had married Betty Brant in the early
issues of Spider-Man, go ahead"
Kids shouldn't grow? Read Dennis the Menace if you want to see eternal
childhood. I'd rather see Franklin Richards age a year or two and see the
story possibilities as Reed and Sue have to deal with a new personality that
emerges.
Peter Parker never a family man? His whole basis of his origin is that he
feels as though he FAILED his family. He comes from a happy home...why
wouldn't he wish to emulate the love that his Uncle Ben and Aunt May had or
that he knew his parents had before their demise? How can anyone say that
having a family is a "perversion" of this character?
Peter will always have work problems, always feel guilty about failing his
family. He may not have the girl troubles but different complications arise:
his guilt about the death of Gwen and the feelings he still feels for her; his
fear that he is endangering Mary Jane or not paying enough attention to her;
his tempations involving the Black Cat.
How would Peter being engaged or just living to Mary Jane be any different
than being married to her? Do you think he'd be dating if he were in this kind
of relationship? And if you ask me to name one good story that results from
their being married, I can point to the Valentine's Day special, Web of
Romance. Peter again realizes what a special person he has in Mary Jane. This
is a husband rediscovering the wonder of his life partner. You can't write a
story like that if your character is wondering if his girlfriend is making
time with his war hero buddy just back from the army. Those stories are great
but that was in the past.
With a character as popular as Spider-Man you have many publishing options.
Look at the wonderful Untold Tales of Spider-Man which placed stories with a
more modern style in the continuity with which we are all familiar. You say
that early Marvel writers and editors aged Peter too quickly. Well, go back to
that era again and write those great stories about Peter in his early days.
Use careful continuity and I think the fans would devour it. You can use
topical references from today...I don't expect Pete to be watching Ed Sullivan
when he should be watching Conan O'Brien.
I agree that having Peter be divorced or a widower would alienate many fans
and the popularity of Mary Jane makes it impossible for her character to
disappear or be besmirched. Your only probable option is a revision of the
Marvel Universe as we know it by some cosmic event, be the perpetrator Wanda,
Thanos or the Beyonder or what have you.
THAT is the easy way out. The House of Ideas is talented enough to create your
great stories without changing an element of the Spider-Man canon that a
generation of comic book fans have come to love.
- Scott
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