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From ofozzybear
I have to disagree with the article on Tony being right. Though as much as I
hate the war-mongering Republicanism he flat-out represents, I have to tip my
hat to how Tony has been portrayed (since Civil War concluded) as a vulnerable
and unsure character who's finally letting the weight of what occured in Civil
War sink in: what he did, what people working for him are still doing behind
his back, the fact he's slowly losing control when there's no purpose for
anyone TO control, etc.
Cap's death proved who was right. Tony is gradually realizing he made
mistakes, that it wasn't worth it, that doesn't just apply to Cap. Cap himself
gave up when he saw the damage; I doubt Tony would have done the same thing,
not with his extremist attitudes.
Given Civil War was always supposed to be a very heavily advertised prologue
to World War Hulk, we all know payback is coming...and you don't leave a
liberal laying. Hulk will take out the teeth, Cap will pick up the pieces and
restore individuality to one and all.
What kind of price comes with it is the reason we all buy comics isn't it?
It's rare in comics to see characters portrayed consistently across books.
Compare, for example, the black-suited yet happy-go-lucky Spider-man of NEW
AVENGERS with the black-suited yet seething and violent Spider-man of AMAZING.
So it is with Tony Stark. Depending on which book you read, he's either
convinced that he always did the right thing (CIVIL WAR) or haunted by his
misdeeds (FRONT LINE). Similarly, since Civil War, he's become either deeply
uneasy about his new role as head of SHIELD (THE CONFESSION) or blithely self-
satisfied about it (MIGHTY AVENGERS); an effective military commander
(AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE) or an ineffective one (IRON MAN). I'm sure in the
upcoming FALLEN SON: IRON MAN we'll get yet another gloss on his character.
So I have to conclude the jury is still out on whether Stark is having the
same sort of epiphany that Rogers did. The question your letter raises,
however, is whether Rogers' epiphany proves he was right. I don't agree.
Rogers' feelings don't speak to the debate between the two men about the
proper relationship between law and freedom: Cap was wrong on the arguments
and Iron Man was right, irrespective of how either man feels about each
other.
I will agree that Cap's epiphany speaks well of his character. Some readers
have complained that having Captain America surrender is a violation of his
fundamental concept. Captain America, these people say, is in essence the man
who never gives up. I think this criticism is way off of the mark. If Captain
America does indeed have an
unalterable core, it consists of those qualities Americans like most about
themselves: perseverance, yes, but also strong commitments to liberty,
justice, and truth. Look at the U.S. Bill of Rights: the very first Amendment
to the Constitution enshrines a commitment to the search for truth, to the
endless questioning of received ideas. Cap didn't give up because he was
afraid or because he thought he couldn't win. Indeed he surrendered on the
cusp of victory, with Iron Man at his mercy. He gave up because he suddenly
realized that he was wrong and Iron Man was right. To embrace defeat because
victory would mean victory for an error is not only noble, it is consistent
with that virtue that Americans claim to revere most of all. So Cap's
surrender was not only praiseworthy, especially because it meant mortifying
his own
instinct to never give up, but it was also consistent with his essential
nature as the embodiment of the U.S.A.
P.S. Do you really think that Tony Stark is a liberal? Maybe in the nineteenth-
century sense; he certainly insists upon the rule of law. But in the twenty-
first-century sense, he strikes me as being quite conservative: he
* is a plutocrat who became rich off of government contracts;
* is comfortable with big government spending provided it is funneled to the
military and justice sectors;
* seems to see law, order, and security as the key policy issues of the day;
and
* has no scruple about restricting individual liberties, often drastically, in
the pursuit of thwarting terrorists and criminals.
I don't know about war-mongering Republicanism, but he certainly strikes me as
being neo-conservative.
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